Overcoming weight loss struggles! Listen to Nancy's inspiring weight loss transformation in this powerful Dish On Ditching Diets podcast episode.
My client Nancy who's in her 50's was restrictive dieting for many years. She could always follow the diet for a period of time and lose weight, but never keep it off. Sound familiar?
Nancy shares in this Dish On Ditching Diets podcast episode how she lost weight for good and how she discovered the problems in her weight loss journey wasn't about the food.
She shares with you how her all or nothing mindset and negative self-talk were sabotaging her and she did not realize it until she began weight loss coaching.
Nancy always believed that making a lifestyle change and losing weight was about memorizing a meal plan or following a strict calorie deficit forever. The idea of doing those things felt miserable to her so making a lifestyle change and losing weight seemed impossible.
Nancy shares with you how she changed her mindset and self-talk and how this allowed her to become more consistent with how she was taking care of her body.
Additionally, she talks about how she always believed certain foods she enjoyed she could not eat and lose weight. We corrected this thinking for her during coaching which led to her creating a lifestyle that was enjoyable and doable long-term!
Last and most importantly, Nancy shares her advice for other women her age struggling to lose weight permanently and what she discovered about herself in her weight loss journey and what it really means to make a lasting lifestyle change!
In this Dish On Ditching Diets Podcast Episode, You Will Hear:
- Nancy's Previous Failed Weight Loss Attempts
- What Making A Lifestyle Change Really Means (Hint - It's Not Memorizing A Meal Plan!)
- How Nancy Lost Weight In The Face Of Multiple Personal Challenges
- Foods Nancy Thought She Couldn't Eat & Lose Weight
- How Nancy Corrected Negative Self-Talk That Was Sabotaging
- Advice Nancy Has For Other Women Wanting To Lose Weight Permanently
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Overcoming Weight Loss Struggles: Nancy's Weight Loss Journey Podcast Transcript
Hello friends! Today I have a special guest on the podcast. Her name is Nancy. Nancy came to work with me in her late 50s. We've been working together for several months now and when she came to me she needed help getting her weight off because she told me she noticed she was no longer able to get weight off as easily as she could when she was in her 20s and 30s.
She would be super strict with her diet, super strict with her food, and she could do it for a few days, but always on the 4th day she would overeat then beat herself up and the beat up would last for weeks. Nancy would convince herself eventually to try another diet and she did many diets and she would think to herself well, we'll just eat these yucky foods or take these pills until I lose weight and she thought she could keep the weight off once she lost the weight somehow magically.
But now she realizes how flawed her thinking was and how she really wasn't approaching her weight loss as a lifestyle transformation. Nancy really did believe when she first started working with me that her problem was just about food, but what she learned during our time working together was how her negative self talk was the real problem and it was keeping her stuck in a cycle of under eating then overeating.
She was also talking down to herself and beating herself up a lot. She really thought when she heard people say you have to make a lifestyle change to lose weight she thought that lifestyle change meant memorizing a meal plan or following and set number of calories and eating foods that you really didn't like.
But what she learned during our time coaching together, is that a lifestyle change means learning what works in your body what works for your lifestyle, learning what foods you enjoy that are healthy and making choices that you can really live with until the day you die because if you can't execute it until the day you die you really can't keep the weight off.
So, Nancy and I started with some really small steps instead of a massive major lifestyle overhaul overnight. Nancy shares with you in today's podcast how she kept thinking this isn't hard enough! What Megan's telling me to do isn't hard enough! How am I ever going to lose weight in such small steps?
But Nancy really came in trusted the process and took the time during our coaching to figure out what to eat that was healthy that she actually liked, how to meal prep it how to be prepared ahead of time, and how to prepare things for her family as well. She says now today how empowered she feels after going through this journey.
She's no longer emotionally eating and numbing out with food. Nancy has control over food and she can keep cookies in the house without eating half the package at once and ohh yeah, Nancy's also lost some weight! Here's nancy's story!
Hi Nancy! Hi Megan! How are you? I'm great! It's so good to have you on the podcast today thanks for coming on and joining and being willing to share your journey with all these lovely ladies who are listening! Well, I'm excited to share!
So you and I've been working together in January of 2022. I want you to just kind of first of all tell everybody a little bit about you whatever you're comfortable sharing with everybody. But just share a little bit background about you and how you came to work with me.
OK, well I'm 59 and I live in Knoxville. I work part time I have a couple of adult kids and I managed to keep myself very busy. I was just in a place where I was not feeling very happy with how I was looking and feeling so I was looking for some help.
So tell us a little bit about your weight loss journey. You know how long were you trying to lose weight? Is this something that you were struggling with since you were a child or something that really came on later in life in terms of that weight? And what what is your weight loss journey look like? Explain that to us a bit.
Ok, well I got married in my mid 20s and gained some weight about in my 20s and I was able to get it off fairly easily with like Weight Watchers. Then I had a baby at 35 and it was a lot harder to get it off, but I started really running and lifting weights and I was able to get it off that time. Then again in my mid 40s I started gaining and I couldn't get it off and at this point it was like 50 lbs.
I had tried everything it was like Atkins, Weight Watchers and I even did some company I can't remember the name of it but they gave you these pills and you have to take like 5 or 6 pills multiple times a day and during these really gross shakes and I never lost more than 10 lbs and I would just turn around and put it right back on it just never seemed to work for me. I was getting really frustrated.
Wow! Ok, so all of these different things are things you did up until the time that you and I were together, huh?
Yeah and I just I just couldn't stick with it because it never felt healthy and it didn't seem I was eating a lot of like processed foods what I call fake foods and artificial sweeteners and they were making me feel so bad and the artificial sweeteners really bothered my arthritis. I just I couldn't do it and I was feeling so desperate and so frustrated I knew I had to just do something different.
Yeah, so really it sounds like a lot of those things were not things you could do for more than a temporary timeframe to lose weight. It just wasn't realistic to continue doing those things until the day you die.
It wasn't and they didn't make me feel good and I didn't feel good about the foods I was eating at all. I was just so desperate that I thought I'll just eat these yucky foods until I lose the weight and then I'll phase them out and eat the food I normally eat.
It's so funny how we think that ohh if I just do this strict thing then I will be able to go back to the way I was eating and keep the weight off. Like that's such a funny thing to me. You know now looking back because I know I thought the same thing before I lost my 80 lbs. like I thought if I could just punish myself enough through the diet and get through it to lose the weight then somehow logically I would know how to eat. That's what I thought.
Yeah it's like once I get it off, I'll just be able to keep it off!
It sounds like you were thinking that as well so and I think a lot of women think that like I don't think they actually think beyond the actual weight loss. Like well how am I actually going to keep this weight off?
So absolutely and I thought it was interesting too that you mentioned you did, I think you said Weight Watchers, and you said you did that like in your 20s or something and it worked pretty.
Well yes, the first time it did.
Then what happened after that I'm curious?
I just I couldn't get the weight off as easily. I don't know if it was because I was older. Well I know now what it was, but at the time I just I didn't understand it and after I would do it for like a couple of weeks and it wouldn't work so I couldn't keep doing it.
How many times do you think you went back to Weight Watchers? Do you know?
Oh my gosh, at least five at least.
Wow! Ok, so you say you know now why it didn't work and we'll get to that in a little bit because you know better now. But it is really true once we do a diet it gets harder and harder and harder to lose weight even if you go back to the same thing that you know worked for you initially. So we'll come back to this and you can share with everybody what you learned, but I want you to share first like how did you find me?
I can't even remember because it's been so long since we've been working together. I can't remember how you ended up finding me.
Well, you showed up in my Instagram feed and you had some really yummy recipes and so I started investigating and I found your podcast and I was like wow I can't believe these are free!
They were so informative and so helpful and I just identified so much with the stories of what the women were saying and it was just normal food and the recipes weren't like super complicated because I don't particularly like to cook. But I cook and it was all stuff that I thought ok I can do this. This sounds like something I can do and I just I just got what those women were saying.
It sounded a lot like you huh?
It was and it was crazy! They would talk about being stuck and I was in this ridiculous cycle of just I would get fed up with myself and then I would be real restrictive for like 3 days and I would do good then there was something about that 4th day I would just completely fall off the wagon. I would go bezerk and start eating all this stuff!
Then the negative self talk I would just beat myself up for weeks and these women would talk about how they were so mean to themselves and you're like such a loser. I was like I deserve to be fat. Everybody knows how that feels and it was awful it was awful what I would say to myself.
Yes, so I know you and I talked about that in our initial consultation. I think that was one of the things you had told me was, Megan I know it's my mindset. I know it's my negative self talk that's getting in the way. I remember that. Do you?
Really? Wow, gosh! Yeah, but it's crazy. I didn't appreciate how much that can affect your habits and I had no idea.
Since we're talking about that, share with everybody who's listening you know how has this been a different this approach with our time working together? How was that different from all the other things you did before?
Oh gosh, it's so different! Well, you start off with really small steps which was just such a new concept to me. I kept trying to do this major lifestyle overhaul and I love that it just broke it down into small manageable steps. You just start out with breakfast and you work on that until it's just a no brainer and it's just a habit.
I kept thinking this isn't hard enough. This has got to be more difficult and I remember having to say to you I'm just going to trust the process. Because I just don't see how this is going to work. I just I trusted the process and we got there. But it just made it such so much more manageable.
Yes, isn't it interesting how we think it needs to be harder? Like I need to punish myself harder? Or be harder on myself to achieve my goals? Like where in the world does that come from? It's so silly when you step back and think about it!
Well, that is exactly what I thought I had to do and yeah, I was like this has to be a major overhaul. This is not going to work, but it sure did and it was life changing!
So to everybody listening stop trying to overhaul everything at once! Baby steps! Little things count! You don't have to be so hard on yourself!
So true and such a game changer for me!
I remember having to talk to you a lot about that mindset in the beginning. Like slow down, be ok with the small stuff, just one step at a time, trust the process and you just kind of released yourself and said yep, I know all the other stuff didn't work so I'm just going to listen to you and follow what you're telling me even though I'm not sure it's gonna get me there.
You're right. You're absolutely right! Yeah, it's so empowering I'm just I feel just so different. It's not restrictive like I thought it was going to be and I can just - I was thinking today I made a run to Trader Joe's and got some coffee and my favorite goodies and I thought wow, I can keep these in the house!
I don't just eat half the package of cookies and they're just there when I want one once in a while and that is so empowering! It makes me feel so strong and so good about myself.
The food no longer has that pull over you.
It doesn't and I never ever thought I would be the person to say that. Never!
What do you think changed? How do you think that happened?
Definitely the self talk. It was the self talk and just realizing that I'm the one in control and I can do this and it's just so empowering and to be kind to myself. I mean I was saying things to myself that I wouldn't say to my worst enemy. The way I would talk to myself and that was just holding me back so much. I just had no idea I couldn't appreciate how debilitating that was to my journey.
You know it's interesting so many women when they come work with me don't believe me at first that it it's the negative self talk and how you're thinking about things how you're treating yourself and beating yourself up.
They'll tell me, I'm not doing any of that stuff! And I'm like but you are. If you're overweight, you're doing that to some degree. You're just not consciously aware of it and my job the way I see it is, it's my job to help you see what you're doing to yourself. How you're being so mean to yourself.
Because when you start to see that you're like oh gosh I would never like treat my best friend or my you know my partner or my family members that way ever! But for some reason you're treating yourself that way and thinking it's helping you but it's not.
Oh my gosh yes! That is exactly it. It's just I had no idea and I didn't really believe the correlation either. I was like this is about food not what I'm saying to myself. But that was not the case. I was definitely sabotaging myself absolutely.
Everybody thinks it's about the food and speaking of the food because you mentioned you went to Trader Joe's and you said you picked up some of your favorite things and I'm sure there's women listening to this thinking there is no way I could bring my favorite foods in the house and have good control around them. I'm sure you thought that at one time too so did I!
For the people who are listening to this they are probably curious like does Megan have all of her clients eating junk food all day? Like exactly what are you eating? What are what are you eating Nancy? Share with everyone!
Haha - I'm not eating junk food. It's so funny you said that. I just have them every once in awhile. Maybe every two or three days, but I'm eating a lot of healthy stuff too. I do repeat a lot of things, but I can make the slightest tweaks and it seems like something new. I'm eating wholesome food. I'm eating more fruits and vegetables than I ever have before.
I'm eating a lot of oatmeal and nuts and avocados and things that I really enjoy and like tonight I was going to make some Greek marinated chicken that's going to be amazing with some grilled vegetables and gosh, one of your recipes that I just love is that Asian pulled chicken. Oh my gosh! My whole family loves that! We have that once a week now. That is a good recipe!
So you're eating a lot of really good nutritious foods, but I imagine that you know for a lot of people listening to this call they're like yeah I know I should probably be eating healthier but I just can't do it. What do you think about that?
Well, I mean you can it's just I I guess I don't I don't mind it, I enjoy it. I look forward to my breakfast. I have you know that blueberry baked oatmeal and I put maple syrup on it and I put walnuts on it and I have a a side of yogurt and I just love it! I enjoy it so it's not stuff that I'm buying and eating that I hate.
So I think what you're saying is you spent the time while we were working together figuring out what you actually liked that was good for you?
Absolutely yes! It did take some time and I had to kind of play around a little bit to find things, but now I have definite like three or four things that I can prepare for lunch and I can even food prep for the week so that it's just there ready to go. When I get really hungry, I can just grab it.
So I'm highlighting this because I think sometimes people think when they hire a coach or they try to lose weight they think that there's not going to be some trial and error but there is. There's a little bit of trial and error that has to take place where you have to figure out what I actually like then use the guidelines that I give you nutritionally so you can actually balance your meals, get the right meal composition so you keep your hunger and cravings in check.
But I think sometimes people have that wrong expectation of oh I should just know exactly what I should be eating and then you're starting to eat things you don't even like them. You got to go through the process of figuring out what you like and what you don't like and sometimes there's gonna be some duds and some things you don't like. That means well, that didn't work we're moving on to the next thing right?
Yes absolutely and found that if I don't like it I'm not going to eat it. I don't waste the energy and the calories it's like ok, this isn't for me so we'll move on to something else. Yeah I'm not going to waste my time and calories.
Were there any foods do you remember when we started working together were there any foods you thought you shouldn't be eating or that you couldn't eat?
Oh yes, like maple syrup and walnuts! Now I eat them every day. Those are some things that I love. I love that combination and avocados too. Those are all things I love and enjoy and I probably eat them daily now!
Wow! Big difference! So fair to say this wasn't the really restrictive like strict diet plan like some of the other things you did in the past?
No! In fact, one of the things I love is potato chips and I'll have potato chips two or three times a week with my lunch.
So definitely balancing things out and incorporating some things you like. Not restricting them! As I recall you had some major life events going on during our time together. I mean it do you remember when we and started working together in January you were having a major surgery?
Yes! I had just had a total knee replacement on my left knee and I was four weeks out from that and I started with you and then three weeks into the program I had a right knee replacement. So yes, I had some big time stuff going on and I had a career change. That turned out to be a really emotional thing and I've always considered myself an emotional eater but I felt so in control. Now my water heater busted and I had to get it replaced. I wanted to go eat a bunch of chocolate didn't even cross my mind. So I've really come a long way. I mean I've gone through all these difficult struggles and a lot of times a bad day would just send me into an emotional eating frenzy and that's not happening now.
Why do you think it's not happening now?
Because I am dealing with the problem and not using food to comfort myself. I think I would get so anxious and worked up than just thinking it through I would just be like ohh I can't deal with this and just eat a bunch of chocolate and just sit and just try to numb out and I don't do that anymore. I journal. I think you know I just slowly solved the problem and it just isn't a crutch for me anymore.
So what you just said to me was you used to eat when these situations happened. You used to think to yourself I can't handle this and then you would go eat. So the thinking I can't handle this was what was actually driving me to eat and from my perspective the big change is you're not thinking that anymore. You're not thinking I can't handle this anymore.
Exactly and it is amazing to me I made such a huge change like that in such a short period of time. I mean that's a major lifestyle change.
It is!
It's major it's huge and I also wanted to highlight for the listeners that like look your life wasn't like perfect during this time frame. You had two major surgeries. You had a career change. Actually you had like two career changes because I think you like you know went to one job and then you decided to leave and then you went to a different career change like there was a bunch of things that were going on so your circumstances and life were not perfect during this time frame at all.
No! In fact, I think this was one of the most difficult years that I've had in a long time and that includes COVID. So you're right, it has been a rough year so far yeah.
I think it's important for people to hear that because sometimes we feel we cannot make a lifestyle change or that we think we can't take good care of ourselves, but really it's the thinking that's wrong. We can do things for ourselves. We can learn to do new things and support ourselves in new ways even with all that stuff going on and I would argue that sometimes that's the best time to have a coach is when you have all of that craziness going on in your life because they can hold you steady.
Oh that's true! I hadn't thought of that, but yeah you're right. When things are going just great that's not when you're being really challenged and it's nice that you have that support. I hadn't thought about that Megan! You're right!
Always learning!
Yeah!
So definitely you have come a long way. I'll just give the listeners my perspective I mean when you first started with me you were definitely restricting your diet a lot. There were a lot of foods you're like I could eat that really? I could eat that? I was like yes Nancy, you can eat that you can eat that! You can eat anything you want really! You can, it's just food! Then there were times too when you would come to a call and you would say Megan, I just did horrible these last few weeks and I would say to you but look at all of these other 20 or 40 things that you did do well!
Like as far as I'm concerned you definitely from day one to the last day of our coaching, I mean the transformation was so huge but from my perspective it's huge because you're not being so mean to yourself.
Absolutely! And just sitting here talking about this just makes me realize how I've just I've really come a long way and a short period of time. It's just crazy! I've made some major changes absolutely in not that much time if you think about it.
So you said earlier about Weight Watchers that you now know what was going on that it was harder for you to lose weight every time you went back to Weight Watchers. Do you want to share your perspective on that?
Well and again I'm not an expert but I believe what happened is once you set your body into deprivation mode it just kind of holds on to things and I was restricting too much. I certainly was not eating the amount of protein I needed. I was not eating the amount of fat I needed. I just was not eating a healthy balance and I think the more I would try the more restrictive I would get.
It just wasn't healthy and I wasn't losing. If I did lose, it was muscle that I was losing and not really losing fat which set me up for the next time. I would go back and try in a month so then my metabolism was even lower because I was missing some muscle mass so it was just a crazy cycle.
So for those of you listening what Nancy's talking about is metabolic adaptation. The first time you do a diet generally speaking if you haven't dieted before or you haven't dieted in a really long time, generally speaking it works pretty well. But then when you tend to lose muscle mass when you lose weight so if you gain weight back you're going to gain fat. You're not going to gain muscle back.
So you've lost that precious muscle and now your metabolic rate has down regulated and as a result of that muscle loss. So you gain fat back, you've got a slower metabolism so then you go back to that same diet your metabolism adapts very quickly to that same diet. It already remembers that's what you were doing and so that it's gonna fight you fight you. I think that the other thing you mentioned was about protein and fat and getting some of the right composition in your meal Nancy. I think that's something that most women are overlooking right?
So they go to Weight Watchers or they go to calorie counting and they only look at that number like let me hit my 30 points today or let me hit my 1500 calories. They don't ever consider like the composition of what they're actually putting into those calories because you could eat 1500 calories of doughnuts and crackers or you could have 1500 calories of mostly protein and produce and fiber with some fats. A really good balance and those two things are going to do 2 very different things in your body. One is going to signal your body to keep hunger and cravings under control help you lose fat and the other one isn't really going to do that it's going to make you hungrier you're going to have a tendency to overeat right because food is not just a number there's also a composition there that's instructing the hormones what to do.
Yeah and that sure makes a big difference on how you feel between meals! Gosh, because I used to snack so much. I mean when I think back on all the time Weight Watchers I was eating like every two 2 1/2 hours and I don't have to do that now because I'm eating a good balance of stuff.
Yeah absolutely!
And my theory is when you're eating so frequently like that you know every hour or two you're grabbing a snack, my theory is you're probably overdoing your calories and your points because you're not getting full so then it becomes a problem. You're probably really inconsistent overall. So, if you look over the period of 4 to 8 weeks 12 weeks right we know weight loss requires a long period of consistency. You know if you're not really consistent within that time frame and you're kind of you know going over your points or calories here and there over time you're really going to just stay the same or be in a surplus. You're not going to see a lot of weight loss.
Yeah well it certainly wasn't working for me.
But you know better now and that's the thing right?
Ohh yeah! I feel so much better! I don't constantly think about food. That's so freeing! And my energy is better. It's just it's been a real awakening!
I'm so glad to hear that so let me ask you this because there's a lot of women just like you and if you remember back a few months back when you first started working together what you felt like. You know confused and always focusing on food and thinking about food and beating yourself up? All that stuff if you think about that and you think about all the women who are listening to this who are probably feeling just like you were what kind of advice would you give to them?
Well, I think the one thing that I didn't understand even though I thought I did was when people would talk about making a lifestyle change and not just a temporary diet to me I thought ok, well that means learning to memorize the calories or memorize the specific move meal plan. I'm just going to eat that for the rest of my life.
I realize now that it's it's about learning what you need to eat, when you need to eat it and making choices that you can live with for the rest of your life. So that's what a lifestyle change means. I totally just didn't really understand that and it's just small changes over a long period of time and it's it's well worth the work of learning.
That's interesting you brought that up. I think there are a lot of women who don't really understand that. They don't really understand that maybe in the beginning just add a vegetable or a fruit to every meal and that could be your first step.
Yeah, like I remember when we started talking about lunches you're like that's a pretty decent lunch. Just add in some vegetables and you'll have it and that was such an easy change. Yeah, it's just making a lot of little choices that are very livable and you don't have to turn your life upside down and punish yourself and gosh be nice to yourself!
That's a huge one! I wish that I could impound that into every woman listening to this podcast. Be nice to yourself! Stop beating yourself up!
I just had no idea how how negative I was and how I just would beat myself up over the tiniest thing. It wasn't even just like gosh I'm human you know that stuff like that happens. Now I talk to myself like I would my daughter or my best friend.
That's exactly what I was going to say. I was going to say a number of times we talked a lot about your daughter and I would say to you would you talk to your daughter that way Nancy? And you would be like well no, never! I would say then why are you saying that to you? You're like well gosh, I never thought about it!
That was pretty eye opening for me!
That's the benefit I see having somebody who is working with you.
Yes, it's it's good to get a fresh perspective on things! Even after I had been working with you for a little while things would still crop up that you're like now let's let's look at! Let's look at what are you saying there. It was like oh yeah, you're right, I didn't even realize I'm being mean to myself again!
And the emotional eating wasn't about the food was it?
Oh no! Not at all. There was a lot more going on there and that was another thing that was hard for me to see without your help. I needed a fresh pair of eyes to kind of point that out and see what I was doing there. I never really saw that. I would think I needed a meal plan or something that would tell me exactly what to eat and I'll be able to be so good. I'll be able to just lose this weight.
It's literally a fairy tale that we tell ourselves this stuff because in my mind emotional eating like in your instance, it was a symptom of how you were dealing with things in life. How you're reacting to things.
Absolutely yes!
And I think we tell ourselves that too because that's what marketing wants us to think. All these diets out there they want us to think oh, you just do this or just take this pill and I'll be able to lose the weight. You got to do the work. And I think when you are in that place of desperation you just want the weight off as quickly as possible. You want the relief from always thinking about being overweight and hating yourself so much it's very tempting to fall into these traps.
It is! I mean I think back on all the like chemicals and those pills I was taking and I would never do that in normal circumstances. I was so desperate that I'm like if this will work I'll do it.
There was a time too where I would just eat like cantaloupe and celery and carrots and I thought I could just do that and then I could lose weight, but yes I always became really hungry and so it didn't work out.
Yes! And there was the military diet everybody all my coworkers did the military diet where you just ate like hard boiled eggs and oh it was awful.
Yeah I've seen that one. That one's awful. It's crazy the stuff we do in the name of weight loss but if we really step back and think about it like you said it really requires a lifestyle transformation which means baby steps and like you said at the beginning you were like I felt like this wasn't hard enough. We were just working on breakfast and I felt like this has to be too easy.
Yes, I really had to put my faith in you and in the program.
And it’s a good thing you did because what if you hadn’t put your faith in the program?
Where would I be now I'd still be yeah I'd still be the same old Nancy that's right.
I know you're so different now and it's so it's so fascinating to see where you started and where you ended up! When you started you were so timid, you were so mean to yourself, so hard on yourself, and all of a sudden you just became this like lighter version of you not only physically but like mentally and emotionally.
You went after this totally different career and you were like Megan, I just decided I didn't like this job anymore so I quit and I went off and I'm doing this thing and I really like it.
You're right! I would have never done that 7-8 months ago so it's fascinating when we fix certain things in our lives it sort of trickles into all areas of our lives.
Yeah you're right!
I'm really proud of you and happy for you that you've been able to achieve so much greatness!
Thank you! I'm proud of myself too.
Well, thank you so much Nancy for coming on the podcast today. I'm sure all the ladies who've been listening to our conversation today probably have enjoyed hearing it and they probably can relate to it quite a lot so I really thank you for having the courage to come on and share your journey with everyone and I wish you the best.
Thank you Megan! Thank you for all you've helped me with! I really appreciate it!
You're so welcome!
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